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Ray Franz Emails: Part 3 - Final

by brotherdan in

here is the final email i received from ray prior to his death.. [if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!

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dear daniel,.

label licker

Thank you so much for this treasure. We're speechless. Wish we could have met him and his wife. Will make sure I pass this on to others.

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Baby Gorillas Born at Bronx Zoo - Video

by cofty in

julia is a 33-year-old gorilla who gave birth to her third baby on march 10, and 19-year-old tuti had her second baby on april 17.. read more.... ....

label licker

Thank you Cofty. Getting ready to go to sleep and this is just what I needed. Pleasant dreams everyone:)

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This weeks study article.....seriously flawed and insensitive reasoning

by stuckinarut2 in

ok, so this weeks study article says the following:.

14. how has jehovah been the rescuer of his people?.

14 the psalmist david sang: i am helpless and poor; may jehovah pay attention to me.

label licker

He helps them as a group. Yeah, so they better stay as close to the org(group) or else they will die. That's not even in the bible! Was Jeremiah, the apostles, Abraham, Noah, Isaac, Joseph,Adam, Eve, Daniel, Moses, the two spies, Jesus, the Prophets, David ect,,, in a group when Yehovah helped them???????

The nation of Israel was a group but look what happened to them back then. Or the ten spies. We all have an individual accounting. He puts life and death before us so that we may choose. That's in the bible! People wake up!

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who says apostates are mentally diseased, bad people?

by hoser in

jw
friends

i had an encounter with a long time fader on a recent business trip.

this regular lurker and sometimes poster on this forum was nothing but kind to me.

i had contacted her and offered to buy her a coffee on my stop in her city but she went out of her way for me.

label licker

Hoser, when we joined the cult, we were already nice people. Those are the people watchtower seems to get. (innocent naive sheep) Why they leave is because they were never mean. You have to be mean in order to follow watchtower's rules in the first place such as shunning and letting someone die.

There is no partiality when it comes to whom we can love. Watchtower would love it for the world to love them only. Show me in the bible where we have to strive for hours on paper in order to be accepted by god. We do kind deeds out of love for others like Yeshuah did. That always came first before his preaching to others.

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Can you take someone with you in Judicial Committee?

by zound in

i've heard of a couple of cases of a person being present (maybe wife, or friend) for support at judicial committees - is this commonly accepted by the elder committee or is it just a rarity?.

label licker

And once bethel knows that you taped your jc, they will not want to get involved with you or your elders. They will lie as well as hang up on you in fear your taping them and yet when you call bethel, they let you know that your phone call is being monitored. They don't realise that when they run from us, they leave us no choice but to take it to the newspapers as well as talk shows. Taping is a protection for you, that's for sure.

They also said that they didn't want my husband in the meeting and I told them that he is staying by my side. They wanted to pull shit on me and without my husband there, I would have been seriously abused more so. I went to my jc to see who my accusers were and have alot of fun when I run into them when they don't have their elders to protect them. I enjoy watching them run as well as put their heads down towards the floor(an elders wife and her mother) out of shame. These elders don't realise the harrassment they have created. We are not going away.

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I skipped the meeting again!! Wife gives me a look I have never seen...

by DATA-DOG in

i had a rough day of physical work and was tired and cold.

i decided to stay home and rest.

when my wife found out, a very strange look swept over her face for just an instant.

label licker

My heart goes out to all. With all what we have been through, I still wouldn't trade it in for the freedom we have now. Just remember when you notice more visits than usual and possibly a jc meeting in the future, tape everything. It really does work in your favor.

There's a couple in our hall where she kicked him out. They df'd the husband and she decided to pioneer. No kids. She is being used in the upcoming assembly. Society is really scraping the barrel with this couple. She has no time to put anything into her marriage but can go out and teach others how to keep their marriage together as long as they pioneer. She's young and beautiful. All about image and making the "good news" real appealing.

There are more and more spouses splitting up with the approval of mother. Divorcing seems to be the new fad. As long as they pioneer and make their shepherds look like they are doing their jobs by helping these wingnuts put kingdom interests first, it will be easier to throw away marriage mates. With the approval of the society. Be careful. Anything can be used against you in the name of seeking first the kingdom and anything else takes second place.(District convention 2014)

LL

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This Weekends SAD Not So Special

by piztjw in

so after being at this weekend's snooze fest i thought the following pretty well summed it all up:.

if it feels good, looks good, sounds good, tastes good, smells good, or is even moderately enjoyable it is from satan!

and if you feel it, look at it, listen to it, taste it, smell it, or even remotely enjoy it you are going to die at armagedon.. if you are too busy, too stressed, or barely able to make financial ends meet, you must pray more, study more, go out door knocking more, and give more money to the organization.. if you are a brother and you have been snubbed, slighted, ignored, bullied, and otherwise passed over for any "advancement" in spite of "reaching out", it is your fault!

label licker

Awesome. If it were me I wouldn't even put IOU but instead Sorry about your luck! Or hope this covers what I wrote on every bathroom stall in this building, love jwnet

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FORGIVENESS ... You owe it to your health

by ABibleStudent in

i'm cleaning up my home of unnecessary magazines/newsletters that i have accumulated over the years.

while i was working as an employee i did not feel like i had the time to read them.

now that i'm not working as an employee but work as a volunteer to network and maintain workplace skills, i seem to have more time to read.. after reading many threads by former jws, i thought that the following article might help some to heal.

label licker

Wow! There are so many ways to look at this and here is just one of those examples that happened to us in town yesterday. We were stopped at the lights sitting next to one of my accusers husband. The one who finally go df'd after two years of the elders covering and hiding things he was doing. His window was down and so many levels of anger was going through my head on account of the elders and him smashing in his wife's car by hand drunk, and waving a loaded gun at his wife and father. Yet he was always getting away with things. His whole family were my accusers. None of them had a story that stuck. Two months later one of them was made an elder.

So what did I say to him? How are you and to go on JWFacts. I was trying to help him After he told us that he hand delivered a letter of complaints to the co on Friday and had the cops who followed him in to the back of the hall where the co lives. It always comes back to bite this cult in the ass. Afterwards, I realised it felt so good to be able to try and get him to feel better since it's been the cult that messed him and his family up. Then I thought of these slimy elders and wonder what they would be like had it not been for the training they recieved from this slimey cult. I guess it's the slimey cult that is going to be the sore spot for the rest of my life that I can not or will not forgive. That will be the thorn in my side that I will have to work hard at to trying and removing it. Good topic!

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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..

by DATA-DOG in

i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??

label licker

Correction: It was Saskatchewan that Sanderson and this other brother was pioneering. Sorry:)

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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..

by DATA-DOG in

i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??

label licker

Sanderson was partaking when he was in his early twenty's. He was living in Flinflon, Manitoba, at the time. He was an ms at the time when a brother had asked him if he was sure of being one of the annointed since he couldn't even give any counsel to those in the ministry school on their parts.